John Edward

[Freckle Face]

Has anyone seen this guy live?

He's doing a show in Glasgow in September and the tickets are £60 each! :074:

His shows are great and I would really love to go, but £60!!

[Michelle]

I'm sure there used to be a thread about him on here! I don't know much about him but I'm sure someone with more knowledge will be along shortly :044:

[MightyMouth]

Much to Simons disgust I love John Edward. I wish I was going!

[Freckle Face]

Much to Simons disgust I love John Edward. I wish I was going!

Don't think I will be going. Can't find anyone as stupid as me who would pay £60. I wouldn't mind if you were guaranteed to get a reading, but you're not. :063:

[Simon]

Fraudster. Nuff said.

[Jan/Billy]

Never heard of him, who is he??

[Ladylola]

Never heard of him, who is he??


He does crossing over [I think] speaks to the dead :045:

[jean]

is he the guy that whispers in dark scary places with a blonde girl and their eyes glow. night vision tv or something. NAH! I dont like him, hes weird !

[Freckle Face]

is he the guy that whispers in dark scary places with a blonde girl and their eyes glow. night vision tv or something. NAH! I dont like him, hes weird !

No, that's Derek Acorah (sp?). John Edward is a psychic(sp?) medium from America. His programmes are on Living tv.

[MightyMouth]

Derek Acorah is a complete prat, as is that annoyingly screamy sidekick he had. At least John Edward doesn't pretend to go into all those gurgly, bug eyed trances and get taken over by other equally annoying 'beings'. Besides, as my Grandad and Mother, me and (my daughter when she was little) had a gift for seeing strange things, I can hardly not believe things like that exist.:035:

[lisalh]

Hard not to belive some of the stuff this guy comes out with- I def want to believe there is something out there but at £60 a tickets any messages will have to come to me direct:076:

[Simon]

I disagree. I believe it's easy to disbelieve what he says. Remember, he's not talking about something being 'out there' - he's talking to dead people. Take a moment to try and remember any time he's given BAD news from the other side.... it doesn't happen!

Do some research on cold reading. He uses pretty much every technique in the books (he literally does). But I have to admit - he's the best i've seen. Having said that, i've also seen some of the shows he's done where he's been WAY off about pretty much everything. But as always, the willing audience always breeze over the parts he gets wrong. You can't blame them really - they just want to hear what they want to hear.

On the plus side for John Edward - he always delivers good news. And if that news can make someone happy - I don't think it's doing any damage.

Lol... my mum thinks he does all his shows for free (thats her arguement that he's genuine). £60 per ticket would say that's balls. :D :D

[MightyMouth]

No, I said the studio shows are free. Which they are. I cannot see why he should fly all around the world for nothing! The thing I like about him is if he says something and someone in the audience tries to make it fit them, then he will say thats what they are doing. If I was trying to con someone, I would latch on to every positive thing and not disagree and say it is for someone else. Anyway, one thing we do agree on, he makes people happy and gives them hope, thats worth £60 of anyones money :046:

[Michelle]

Hmmmmmmm I'm not sure about this one. If he gives people hope and peace of mind then I suppose it is a good thing, but isn't he still making money of other people's grief allbeit in a good way! How do the people who don't get messages feel? despair? dissapointment?

I think if people want to know about a loved one who has passed, that desperately, then they are likely to believe everything they're told. Im not condemning him or condoning him, so I think I will just plonk my butt on the fence for this one:048:

[Simon]

That technique of not allowing every positive match, is a documented one. In the few times i've played this game with people i've done the same thing. By doing that, it re-enforces what he's saying. Another classic is to force the issue by making the person believe they are wrong about his judgement. It's a confusion technique which works well in this scenario. He'll continue to push the agenda like he's absolutely certain of what he's talking about even if they are denying it. And he'll continue until that person begins to believe and fit his words around something more general.

He's clever, but it's nothing new. People invented these techniques in the early 1800s. Oddly, when the two WOMEN who started this whole thing finally came clean - nobody believed them. And so was born the whole psychic culture.

In my opinion, people who have passed on exist only in our hearts and minds. At the end of the day, isn't that what counts? Whether they can still be contacted makes no difference at all - whats important is that we carry them with us in 'some' capacity.

[Freckle Face]

I've always thought of him to be totally genuine, although thinking about what you're saying Simon, some times when I've watched his shows, someone in the audience has given away just a wee bit too much information and he has latched onto it and brough it back up later as if the person from the other side has just come through.

I've never heard of cold reading before and will definately look into it.

No way will I be paying £60 for him! I've been to spiritualist churches and paid £2 and got a really good reading, most things spot on and others thing not so much.

If he is a fraud then I'm annoyed that he's charging £60 a ticket for his shows, but I bet he's not bothered.

[lisalh]

No, I said the studio shows are free. Which they are. I cannot see why he should fly all around the world for nothing! The thing I like about him is if he says something and someone in the audience tries to make it fit them, then he will say thats what they are doing. If I was trying to con someone, I would latch on to every positive thing and not disagree and say it is for someone else. Anyway, one thing we do agree on, he makes people happy and gives them hope, thats worth £60 of anyones money :046:
I like the way you put this Sheryl.....

[Simon]

If he is a fraud then I'm annoyed that he's charging £60 a ticket for his shows, but I bet he's not bothered.

Yeah, thats kinda the annoying thing. £60 for a ticket is FAR more than enough to cover travel, accomodation, venue etd.

[MightyMouth]

I don't see how anyone can be angry at the price. The people who don't believe won't go no matter what the price. The people who believe a bit won't go because it is too expensive and the people who believe in him will go no matter the price. I refuse to believe that something like this is not possible, the same way as I refuse to believe we are the only living beings in the universe. I bet people had the same attitude toward Leonardo Da Vince and some of his ideas.

There are more things in heaven and earth Horatio, than are dreamt of in your philosophy.

[Freckle Face]

I agree with you Sheryl on who will go and not go.

I totally believe that there is something on 'the other side' and a selected number of people in the world are lucky enough to be able to communicate with them.

I'm more annoyed at him being (possibly) fake and charging such a high amount for tickets. To me £60 is alot of money. :)

[Simon]

I don't see how anyone can be angry at the price. The people who don't believe won't go no matter what the price. The people who believe a bit won't go because it is too expensive and the people who believe in him will go no matter the price. I refuse to believe that something like this is not possible, the same way as I refuse to believe we are the only living beings in the universe. I bet people had the same attitude toward Leonardo Da Vince and some of his ideas.

There are more things in heaven and earth Horatio, than are dreamt of in your philosophy.

Comparing a scam artist to whether there are other things in the universe is silly - they are completely different. The physical side of an expanding universe would dictate it most likely that there are other planets with other species - there is reasonable arguement behind that, given that life already exists on one planet. But psychics (despite having been scientifically proven to be false many times in the past) continue to exist simply because people look for reassurance about someone who has passed away. There is no science behind that.

I'd be angry at the price, because people are paying 'just in case' they get a 'message' from a loved one. They don't pay it because they are devote followers of John Edward, they pay because they believe he can connect them to someone they care about. It's exploitation of an emotional state and what ever way you view it - £60 is still a bloody rip off.

If you took time to read books like "Full facts book of Cold Reading" by Ian Rowland - you'd see just how much of a fraud the whole thing is. You can spot many (if not all) of the things he does while he's doing his show. (p.s. For those interested, the book is only available directly from Ian and is not on sale just now, though there are a couple of others)

[MightyMouth]

Comparing a scam artist to whether there are other things in the universe is silly - they are completely different.

They are? Says who? Another person/persons who have written a book? That makes them true and JE not then? Thats all it takes? To me, the possibility of being able to touch, see or hear yet another part of this existence is one and the same. You find the idea of there being something after this life laughable. I find the idea that when we die that is it, equally so.

The theory that psychics have been scientifically proven to be false is ludicrous. If you are talking about the Victorian table rattlers then I quite agree. However, I think if you are talking about present day, I cannot see how science can prove pychics are liars any more than psychics can prove they are telling the truth. Of course there are people who call themselves psychics that are not. There are people who call themselves workmen, friends, carers etc who are not. I do not believe that psychics found to be lying should in any way detract from those who have a gift (in my opinion) any more than we shouldn't have friends because someone turned out not to be trusted.

I would imagine for every person you trot out who debunks this theory, there is another person who has been helped by things like this to redress the balance.

[Simon]

Hey guess what.... there's a giant Teacup orbiting the earth right now. It's pink, with yellow dots. Unfortunately, it can't be seen by the naked eye - or even with a really powerful telescope. But it is there.

Now, just because i've told you that and it cannot be disproved - doesn't mean it's any more true. Scientists can at least test certain types of ability (or lack thereof). Just so happens that JE is in a more 'cloudy' line of work.

Odd though isn't it, that spirits can tell him how many people died and in what way, yet they can never seem to spit out a name. EVER! Oh, im getting the initials S and G over in this area of the audience.... yes, and this person has a grandmother.... and hands and feet.... and likes eating food.... and lives on earth....

Erm... yes... well done John.

[Freckle Face]

Sorry, didn't realise this would have caused such a stir.

[Theresa]

You two crack me up.

Sheryl you obviously read a different parenting book than my mum....In our house she was right and that was that....God forbid you have a freindly debate about anything with her.

To this day it's still easier to just let her think she is right about everything

Don't you wish you'd never encouraged his ability to think for himself huh :059::059:

[MightyMouth]

Pfft. When in doubt, resort to sarcasm!


Sheryl you obviously read a different parenting book than my mum....In our house she was right and that was that....God forbid you have a freindly debate about anything with her.

To this day it's still easier to just let her think she is right about everything

Don't you wish you'd never encouraged his ability to think for himself huh :059::059:

Wouldn't have him any other way!!:078: Well, maybe diced and served with baby new potatoes!

:075:For Jen. This is normal for me and Si. In fact it is normal for me and Lou too!

[Michelle]

Awwww have you finished? I was enjoying that :064::075:

[Freckle Face]

Pfft. When in doubt, resort to sarcasm!



Wouldn't have him any other way!!:078: Well, maybe diced and served with baby new potatoes!

:075:For Jen. This is normal for me and Si. In fact it is normal for me and Lou too!

Phew! :010:

[MightyMouth]

No more, poor Jen thinks she has started WW3 :075:

[Michelle]

Well......in that case :046::046::046::046: bravo!:045:

[Theresa]

Awwwww it was just starting to get really interesting

Oh well grand effort anyhow :052::052:

[Simon]

Psychics my arse. Long live science!

:053:

[MightyMouth]

Children my arse, long live being single! :064::064:

[jean]

Children my arse, long live being single! :064::064:
oh hey!! I go along with that one!!! :052: